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Ichi-007 Lieutenant
Nombre de messages : 1781
Age : 42 Localisation : Tousand Sunny Date d'inscription : 24/02/2009
| Sujet: One Piece 583 Sam 1 Mai 2010 - 20:48 | |
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Chapter 583: Final Destination for the Uncertain
Dadan tells Luffy she'll give him food and water, but if he wants meat he's gonna have to get it himself. She also makes Luffy do errands in the house
Ace is off to somewhere Luffy goes after Ace, abandoning his errands Ace comes back to the house first Luffy comes back to the house a week later, all beat up
But Luffy goes after Ace every day month after month. After three month or so, he arrives at the Gray Terminal, where there's heaps of trash.
Sabo is sitting on top of the tree nearby Ace calls Sabo up Ace and Sabo are doing crooked things to save up hidden savings for piracy Luffy arrives and tells them he's gonna be a pirate too Luffy now knows Sabo and Ace's secret Ace and Sabo ties Luffy to a tree and tries to kill him, but can't (they've never killed anyone yet)
A large man who Ace stole the money from appears, and is looking for Ace Luffy is caught by the man, and asks for help
The large man asks Luffy if he knows Ace, and he answers yes He then asks where the money is, but Luffy tells him he doens't know (Luffy is terrible at lying)
The man tells Luffy well then, I'll make you remember, and takes him away
Will Ace & Sabo save Luffy or not? End of chapter
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Chapter 583: Final Destination of Uncertainty (The Gray Terminal) Cover is Hogback and Absalom looking for a mate
Luffy: I HATE mountain bandits!! Dadan: shuddup damn brat, we're already upset we have to deal with the likes of you. If you don't wanna stay here, feel free to go out there and starve yourself to death!! bandit: calm down, boss
Luffy looks at Ace eating heaps of meat with hunger Luffy: There's not enough food, I want to eat that meat too!! Dadan: All these meat are from wild bull Ace hunted!! He gives us our share, and that's how it's on our plates. Mountain Bandits aren't doing too well these days We're gonna work you to death from tomorrow!! We'll have you clean, wash clothes, shine our shoes, and shine our weapons! As well as robbing, stealing, conning, and murdering people! And never rat on Garp on what you're forced to do here!! Dadan scolds Luffy while eating the meat
A rice bowl and a cup is shown Dadan: one bowl of rice, and one cup of water! That's all we'll gurantee you... the rest, you have to get yourself!! And grow up on your own! Luffy: Alright Dadan: Oh you're alright with this!? This is where you're supposed to cry!! Luffy: I've been thrown into the jungle by my grampa before. I can eat worms, frogs, snakes, and mushrooms all I want in the forest If I'm gonna become a pirate one day, I have to be able to do at least that by myself!
Ace walks out of the room Luffy: Where is he going? Dadan: No, where are YOU going!! ...did you just say pirates!?
Luffy walks out of the room, after Ace Dadan: Look at him!! He's too tough for a little boy... that's why I hate having to look after Garp's grandkids!!! Bandit: calm down, boss
Ace notices Luffy following him Ace: ...... Luffy: Hey!! My name is Luffy!! I'm not mad at you for spitting on me anymore!! Ace: .....
Flashback to Shanks in the bar Luffy: Why are you laughing!! It's so uncool! Shanks: All he did was pour beer on me. It's nothing to get riled up about, you know?
Back to the forest Luffy: It's nothing to get mad about!! Hey, let's be friends!! Where are you going!? Ace: ...... Ace without saying a word, kicks down a massive tree towards Luffy Luffy sees the tree and panics Luffy: huh? WAAAAAAAAA!!!! *CRAAASH* Luffy is flattened by the tree Luffy: AAAAAAA Ace looks at the disaster without a care in the world
Ace is crossing a bridge, and Luffy catches up to him, and Ace notices him Luffy: *pant pant* Ace: !?
Ace walks up to Luffy, and strikes him with a stick Luffy: Gyaa!! Luffy is knocked off the bridge, and falls into the canyon below Luffy: AAAAAaaaaaaaa.........
Scene changes to night time A bandit with a turban asks Ace Turban: Ace... you came back alone? Ace: ......... Turban: Where's Luffy!? Weren't you together? Ace: who knows
Turban: Hey boss!! He's gone missing from day one!! This is not good!!! Dadan: Who gives a damn!! If he dies, he dies, we can't do anything about it! Dadan responds while gulping down beer
Dadan: First of all, we're already given up on looking after Ace!! I don't care where he goes off to die, we'll just tell Garp it was an accident but no, he keeps on living just like the saying, the the more hated the boy is, the more power he gains in the world! (Japanese saying "Hated child, successful in the world")
Ace is listening to Dadan Ace: ........ Dadan: He's the son of the devil!! Think what will happen if the government finds out! You know what they'll do to us!? Bandit: calm down, boss
Ace listens to them silently
Scene changes to one week later Bandit: Boss!! Dadan, ma'am!! Luffy came back alive!! Dadan: He's still alive!? Bandit: calm down, boss Dadan: Where the hell were you!!
Luffy is in tatters
Turban: Hey, where were you and what were you doing? Luffy: I was being chased by wolves at bottom of the cliff Turban: Below the cliff!? What did you go there for!?
The scene changes to their sleeping room, and Luffy is thrown onto the floor of the room Dadan: Sleep for now!! Starting tomorrow, you're gonna work hard for us!! Ace: ....... Ace notices Luffy, and opens one of his eyes to see him, but doesn't say a word
Luffy slept well and morning came Luffy goes after Ace leaving the bandit hideout Luffy: Hey Ace!! You're going somewhere again!? Ace: !
Ace notices Luffy
Luffy: Take me with you!! Let's be friends! Ace: ..........
Ace runs off without saying anything, and Luffy runs after him Luffy: Hey wait up!! I'm not gonna lose you this time!
Turban: Hey boss!! He went out again, chasing after Ace!! Dadan: Damn you Luffy!!! You're supposed to do errands for us!! ... the damn kid won't obey a single word!!
Eight days later Luffy is falling into a river of gigantic aligators, and Ace is standing atop of the rock
Ten days later Ace hurls huge rocks from atop a cliff at Luffy, and runs away
Luffy is searching for Ace, while a gigantic serpent is moving in close behind him
Luffy keeps losing sight of Ace, but doesn't give up looking for him day after day after day A month passes. Two months passes Luffy is shown almost captured by a gigantic bird
Rainy day, windy day day after day Luffy chases after Ace Luffy is spewing water from his mouth, after he was thrown into a waterfall by Ace, and saved by Turban
Three month passed as Luffy relentlessly chased Ace Luffy is surrounded by gigantic tigers and bears, as Ace looks down on him from above
Luffy: *pant* haah... Luffy comes out of the forest Luffy: Oh... I'm out of the forest.....
Outside of Colbo mountain where the Dadan family hides out, there's a place reeking of foul stench The massive heaps of trash here is burning up smoke from natural fire of the sun every day
Luffy: *GAG* Oh god, it stinks here!! What the hell is this place!?
A large mountain of trash is seen Unneeded things gather here. As well as unneeded people
A man holding a blade stands in front of Luffy Man: Hey kid... out of my way.... Trash heap resident: It's a murderer!!! Another resident: He went that way!!
Of course, the place is lawless there are no doctors either, and the place is full of crime and disease This is the Final Destination of Uncertainty, the "Gray Terminal"
Luffy notices Ace sneaking up a mountain of trash Ace whispers Ace: Sabo! Sabo, are you here?
Sabo: Hey Ace Ace: Sorry for being late Sabo: Yeah you are late. I've already finished a job at the town Sabo smiles Ace: I see. Well guess what, so did I!
Ace is carrying tons of money, and Sabo is surprised
A young boy wearing a silk hat with goggles Sabo [10 years old] A boy living in Gray Terminal
Sabo grabs the cash Sabo: Whoa, awesome!! You got more than I did!! This is a lot of cash, how did you do it!? Ace: I took them from bunch of punks near the gate!! They might be transporters for some merchant ship
Sabo: Damn!! you beat me again! The two chat as they open a hidden safe in the ground Inside the safe is full of money, jewerly, and rare metals
They continue to chat while looking at it Ace: Who cares who wins!! It's our stash of pirate savings we're both going to use together some day! It's been five years since we started to save this up... it was hell to gather all this Sabo: Yeah! I wonder how much we need to buy a pirate ship Ace: Who knows.... thousands, millions, we still have long way to go! Hurry and put it away, who knows who will see us.....
Luffy was watching and listening them from below Luffy: Pirate ship!? You guys gonna be pirates!?
Ace and Sabo notices Luffy, and panics Luffy: Me too!!
Luffy comes to Ace, but Ace ties him up with a rope Luffy: So Ace, this is where you come to every day!? Ace: Shut up Sabo: So this is that Luffy guy you were telling me about Ace: So you finally came all the way here.... I didn't even use any path a human could walk through Luffy: Are you friend of Ace!? Hey, let's be friends! Sabo: Shut up
Sabo: That's why I told you to live here with me!! The every day round trip you call the mountain path training really bit you in the ass now! What should we do? Ace: He knows our secret now.... if we leave him be, he'll tell someone
Ace: .... let's kill him Sabo: yeah, let's Luffy: WHAAAAAAT!??
Sabo holds Luffy's head down to the ground Sabo: Stay quite, you idiot Luffy: I didn't think you guys were gonna kill me!!! Help!!! I don't wanna die!!! Luffy cries and yells Ace: Sabo!! Hurry and do it!! Sabo: What are you talking about, YOU do it! Ace: I've never killed a person!! Sabo: Neither have I! I don't know how!! Luffy: Heeeellllppp!!! Sabo & Ace: SHUT UP!!!!!
Someone is coming into the forest: Hey, I heard voices from the forest!! Childrens' voices!! Sabo: Damn!! Someone's coming! Ace: Take off the ropes off him first!! We have to get away from here, or they'll find our treasure! Sabo and Ace are panicking, while Luffy looks happy
A huge man with a sword (and no neck) appears Blue Jam Pirates crew Porchemy
Porschemy: Those kids "Ace and Sabo" you're telling me about are infamous around here. You're sure it's "Ace" that took your money, right? Crew: Yes... it's a shame, he got me by surprise Porschemy: What a stupid kid. To take money from our crew...!! If Captain BlueJam hears about this, he'll kill both me and you!
Ace and Sabo are eavesdropping while hiding Ace: Damn... that punk was a trader for BlueJam.... I laid my hands on some dangerous cash...!! Sabo: He has a real sword!! That's Porschemy!! That guy is crazy, have you heard of him!? He skins alive the head of anyone who loses to him in a battle!! Ace: !!?
Sabo notices Luffy is missing from his side Sabo: What... where is him!? Ace: oh
Luffy is caught Luffy: Leggo of me!! damn you-! Ace & Sabo: What is he doing getting caught!!?? Luffy: Help mne, Ace!! Ace: !!? That idiot said my name...!!
Porschemy: .... did you just say Ace? You know Ace? Luffy: He's my friend!! Oh, but he did try to kill me just now
Ace: Damn him, he keeps talking!!
Porschemy: Alright, let me ask you one thing. Today, that kid Ace took our money and ran Luffy; ! Porschemy: Do you happen to know where it is? Luffy: ........!!!
Sabo: Oh no!! They're gonna take all our treasures! Ace: That idiot better not say a word!!
Luffy looks away and whistles Luffy: I... I... I dunno..... Porshecmy: Wow you suck at lying!
Porschemy: hehe.... if you don't know, that leaves me no choice.... Porschemy carries off Luffy Porschemy: Heh heh, I'll make you remember, don't worry.... Luffy: Hey what's that!? Leggo!! Where are you taking me, damn it!!
Ace & Sabo: ......!!!
End
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| | | Ichi-007 Lieutenant
Nombre de messages : 1781
Age : 42 Localisation : Tousand Sunny Date d'inscription : 24/02/2009
| Sujet: Re: One Piece 583 Sam 1 Mai 2010 - 21:18 | |
| Donc Sabo est un ami à Ace et Luffy , cela explique la phrase de Ace : http://www.lecture-en-ligne.com/onepiece/574/0/10.html | |
| | | Lusama Lieutenant
Nombre de messages : 1914
Age : 31 Date d'inscription : 31/05/2009
| Sujet: Re: One Piece 583 Sam 1 Mai 2010 - 21:30 | |
| Petite histoire de famille donc. ^^ Suite à cet évènement Ace ira sûrement sauver Luffy (puisqu'il n'a pas pu le tuer) et ils deviendront comme les frères que nous avons connus. Le chapitre s'annonce sympathique. :) | |
| | | Diozz Alexander RayLight 5ème officier
Nombre de messages : 531
Age : 33 Localisation : In My Heaven Date d'inscription : 28/01/2010
| Sujet: Re: One Piece 583 Sam 1 Mai 2010 - 22:22 | |
| Que du bon en perspective.
Un nouveau protagoniste c'est bon ça ! | |
| | | kurokami 5ème officier
Nombre de messages : 683
Age : 31 Localisation : in univer's way Date d'inscription : 03/01/2010
| Sujet: Re: One Piece 583 Sam 1 Mai 2010 - 23:02 | |
| chapitre moyen, le passé de nos héros. Hmm, c'est bien, c'est bon, au moins on nous montre la fraternité qui existe entre les deux. | |
| | | Ichi-007 Lieutenant
Nombre de messages : 1781
Age : 42 Localisation : Tousand Sunny Date d'inscription : 24/02/2009
| Sujet: Re: One Piece 583 Dim 2 Mai 2010 - 18:10 | |
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Chapter 583: Final Destination of Uncertainty (The Gray Terminal) Cover is Hogback and Absalom looking for a mate
Luffy: I HATE mountain bandits!! Dadan: shuddup damn brat, we're already upset we have to deal with the likes of you. If you don't wanna stay here, feel free to go out there and starve yourself to death!! bandit: calm down, boss
Luffy looks at Ace eating heaps of meat with hunger Luffy: There's not enough food, I want to eat that meat too!! Dadan: All these meat are from wild bull Ace hunted!! He gives us our share, and that's how it's on our plates. Mountain Bandits aren't doing too well these days We're gonna work you to death from tomorrow!! We'll have you clean, wash clothes, shine our shoes, and shine our weapons! As well as robbing, stealing, conning, and murdering people! And never rat on Garp on what you're forced to do here!! Dadan scolds Luffy while eating the meat
A rice bowl and a cup is shown Dadan: one bowl of rice, and one cup of water! That's all we'll gurantee you... the rest, you have to get yourself!! And grow up on your own! Luffy: Alright Dadan: Oh you're alright with this!? This is where you're supposed to cry!! Luffy: I've been thrown into the jungle by my grampa before. I can eat worms, frogs, snakes, and mushrooms all I want in the forest If I'm gonna become a pirate one day, I have to be able to do at least that by myself!
Ace walks out of the room Luffy: Where is he going? Dadan: No, where are YOU going!! ...did you just say pirates!?
Luffy walks out of the room, after Ace Dadan: Look at him!! He's too tough for a little boy... that's why I hate having to look after Garp's grandkids!!! Bandit: calm down, boss
Ace notices Luffy following him Ace: ...... Luffy: Hey!! My name is Luffy!! I'm not mad at you for spitting on me anymore!! Ace: .....
Flashback to Shanks in the bar Luffy: Why are you laughing!! It's so uncool! Shanks: All he did was pour beer on me. It's nothing to get riled up about, you know?
Back to the forest Luffy: It's nothing to get mad about!! Hey, let's be friends!! Where are you going!? Ace: ...... Ace without saying a word, kicks down a massive tree towards Luffy Luffy sees the tree and panics Luffy: huh? WAAAAAAAAA!!!! *CRAAASH* Luffy is flattened by the tree Luffy: AAAAAAA Ace looks at the disaster without a care in the world
Ace is crossing a bridge, and Luffy catches up to him, and Ace notices him Luffy: *pant pant* Ace: !?
Ace walks up to Luffy, and strikes him with a stick Luffy: Gyaa!! Luffy is knocked off the bridge, and falls into the canyon below Luffy: AAAAAaaaaaaaa.........
Scene changes to night time A bandit with a turban asks Ace Turban: Ace... you came back alone? Ace: ......... Turban: Where's Luffy!? Weren't you together? Ace: who knows
Turban: Hey boss!! He's gone missing from day one!! This is not good!!! Dadan: Who gives a damn!! If he dies, he dies, we can't do anything about it! Dadan responds while gulping down beer
Dadan: First of all, we're already given up on looking after Ace!! I don't care where he goes off to die, we'll just tell Garp it was an accident but no, he keeps on living just like the saying, the the more hated the boy is, the more power he gains in the world! (Japanese saying "Hated child, successful in the world")
Ace is listening to Dadan Ace: ........ Dadan: He's the son of the devil!! Think what will happen if the government finds out! You know what they'll do to us!? Bandit: calm down, boss
Ace listens to them silently
Scene changes to one week later Bandit: Boss!! Dadan, ma'am!! Luffy came back alive!! Dadan: He's still alive!? Bandit: calm down, boss Dadan: Where the hell were you!!
Luffy is in tatters
Turban: Hey, where were you and what were you doing? Luffy: I was being chased by wolves at bottom of the cliff Turban: Below the cliff!? What did you go there for!?
The scene changes to their sleeping room, and Luffy is thrown onto the floor of the room Dadan: Sleep for now!! Starting tomorrow, you're gonna work hard for us!! Ace: ....... Ace notices Luffy, and opens one of his eyes to see him, but doesn't say a word
Luffy slept well and morning came Luffy goes after Ace leaving the bandit hideout Luffy: Hey Ace!! You're going somewhere again!? Ace: !
Ace notices Luffy
Luffy: Take me with you!! Let's be friends! Ace: ..........
Ace runs off without saying anything, and Luffy runs after him Luffy: Hey wait up!! I'm not gonna lose you this time!
Turban: Hey boss!! He went out again, chasing after Ace!! Dadan: Damn you Luffy!!! You're supposed to do errands for us!! ... the damn kid won't obey a single word!!
Eight days later Luffy is falling into a river of gigantic aligators, and Ace is standing atop of the rock
Ten days later Ace hurls huge rocks from atop a cliff at Luffy, and runs away
Luffy is searching for Ace, while a gigantic serpent is moving in close behind him
Luffy keeps losing sight of Ace, but doesn't give up looking for him day after day after day A month passes. Two months passes Luffy is shown almost captured by a gigantic bird
Rainy day, windy day day after day Luffy chases after Ace Luffy is spewing water from his mouth, after he was thrown into a waterfall by Ace, and saved by Turban
Three month passed as Luffy relentlessly chased Ace Luffy is surrounded by gigantic tigers and bears, as Ace looks down on him from above
Luffy: *pant* haah... Luffy comes out of the forest Luffy: Oh... I'm out of the forest.....
Outside of Colbo mountain where the Dadan family hides out, there's a place reeking of foul stench The massive heaps of trash here is burning up smoke from natural fire of the sun every day
Luffy: *GAG* Oh god, it stinks here!! What the hell is this place!?
A large mountain of trash is seen Unneeded things gather here. As well as unneeded people
A man holding a blade stands in front of Luffy Man: Hey kid... out of my way.... Trash heap resident: It's a murderer!!! Another resident: He went that way!!
Of course, the place is lawless there are no doctors either, and the place is full of crime and disease This is the Final Destination of Uncertainty, the "Gray Terminal"
Luffy notices Ace sneaking up a mountain of trash Ace whispers Ace: Sabo! Sabo, are you here?
Sabo: Hey Ace Ace: Sorry for being late Sabo: Yeah you are late. I've already finished a job at the town Sabo smiles Ace: I see. Well guess what, so did I!
Ace is carrying tons of money, and Sabo is surprised
A young boy wearing a silk hat with goggles Sabo [10 years old] A boy living in Gray Terminal
Sabo grabs the cash Sabo: Whoa, awesome!! You got more than I did!! This is a lot of cash, how did you do it!? Ace: I took them from bunch of punks near the gate!! They might be transporters for some merchant ship
Sabo: Damn!! you beat me again! The two chat as they open a hidden safe in the ground Inside the safe is full of money, jewerly, and rare metals
They continue to chat while looking at it Ace: Who cares who wins!! It's our stash of pirate savings we're both going to use together some day! It's been five years since we started to save this up... it was hell to gather all this Sabo: Yeah! I wonder how much we need to buy a pirate ship Ace: Who knows.... thousands, millions, we still have long way to go! Hurry and put it away, who knows who will see us.....
Luffy was watching and listening them from below Luffy: Pirate ship!? You guys gonna be pirates!?
Ace and Sabo notices Luffy, and panics Luffy: Me too!!
Luffy comes to Ace, but Ace ties him up with a rope Luffy: So Ace, this is where you come to every day!? Ace: Shut up Sabo: So this is that Luffy guy you were telling me about Ace: So you finally came all the way here.... I didn't even use any path a human could walk through Luffy: Are you friend of Ace!? Hey, let's be friends! Sabo: Shut up
Sabo: That's why I told you to live here with me!! The every day round trip you call the mountain path training really bit you in the ass now! What should we do? Ace: He knows our secret now.... if we leave him be, he'll tell someone
Ace: .... let's kill him Sabo: yeah, let's Luffy: WHAAAAAAT!??
Sabo holds Luffy's head down to the ground Sabo: Stay quite, you idiot Luffy: I didn't think you guys were gonna kill me!!! Help!!! I don't wanna die!!! Luffy cries and yells Ace: Sabo!! Hurry and do it!! Sabo: What are you talking about, YOU do it! Ace: I've never killed a person!! Sabo: Neither have I! I don't know how!! Luffy: Heeeellllppp!!! Sabo & Ace: SHUT UP!!!!!
Someone is coming into the forest: Hey, I heard voices from the forest!! Childrens' voices!! Sabo: Damn!! Someone's coming! Ace: Take off the ropes off him first!! We have to get away from here, or they'll find our treasure! Sabo and Ace are panicking, while Luffy looks happy
A huge man with a sword (and no neck) appears Blue Jam Pirates crew Porchemy
Porschemy: Those kids "Ace and Sabo" you're telling me about are infamous around here. You're sure it's "Ace" that took your money, right? Crew: Yes... it's a shame, he got me by surprise Porschemy: What a stupid kid. To take money from our crew...!! If Captain BlueJam hears about this, he'll kill both me and you!
Ace and Sabo are eavesdropping while hiding Ace: Damn... that punk was a trader for BlueJam.... I laid my hands on some dangerous cash...!! Sabo: He has a real sword!! That's Porschemy!! That guy is crazy, have you heard of him!? He skins alive the head of anyone who loses to him in a battle!! Ace: !!?
Sabo notices Luffy is missing from his side Sabo: What... where is him!? Ace: oh
Luffy is caught Luffy: Leggo of me!! damn you-! Ace & Sabo: What is he doing getting caught!!?? Luffy: Help mne, Ace!! Ace: !!? That idiot said my name...!!
Porschemy: .... did you just say Ace? You know Ace? Luffy: He's my friend!! Oh, but he did try to kill me just now
Ace: Damn him, he keeps talking!!
Porschemy: Alright, let me ask you one thing. Today, that kid Ace took our money and ran Luffy; ! Porschemy: Do you happen to know where it is? Luffy: ........!!!
Sabo: Oh no!! They're gonna take all our treasures! Ace: That idiot better not say a word!!
Luffy looks away and whistles Luffy: I... I... I dunno..... Porshecmy: Wow you suck at lying!
Porschemy: hehe.... if you don't know, that leaves me no choice.... Porschemy carries off Luffy Porschemy: Heh heh, I'll make you remember, don't worry.... Luffy: Hey what's that!? Leggo!! Where are you taking me, damn it!!
Ace & Sabo: ......!!!
End
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| | | Anor 5ème officier
Nombre de messages : 628
Localisation : Las Noches Date d'inscription : 01/10/2009
| Sujet: Re: One Piece 583 Lun 3 Mai 2010 - 1:23 | |
| Pour info, le chap est sorti sur MangaHelpers.
Le chapitre en lui-même n'est pas génial. Il apporte seulement quelques informations sur les débuts de la relation Luffy/Ace. Ce dernier est aussi taciturne que les quelques flash-back auxquels on avait déjà eu le droit le laissait voir.
En tout cas, l'île de Fushia est étonnamment grande et sauvage. | |
| | | Lusama Lieutenant
Nombre de messages : 1914
Age : 31 Date d'inscription : 31/05/2009
| Sujet: Re: One Piece 583 Lun 3 Mai 2010 - 10:31 | |
| Chapitre très sympathique comme prévu. Pas grand chose à dire à part que Luffy est mignon comme tout. ^^ Et Ace ne semblait pas posséder les pouvoir du logia à ce moment là, dommage ça l'aurait bien aidé pour ses vols. | |
| | | slash_Q3 4ème officier
Nombre de messages : 808
Age : 37 Date d'inscription : 25/06/2009
| Sujet: Re: One Piece 583 Lun 3 Mai 2010 - 12:22 | |
| Au fait, le chapitre est déjà sur one manga depuis cette nuit. Ça parait incroyable vu qu'on est lundi...
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/583/ | |
| | | NELL-sama je t'aime Spammeur en chef
Nombre de messages : 5846
Age : 38 Localisation : si je vous dit choucroute, cigogne, cathédrale et équipe de foot pourave, vous me répondez... Date d'inscription : 15/10/2008
| Sujet: Re: One Piece 583 Lun 3 Mai 2010 - 12:55 | |
| - Citation :
- Et Ace ne semblait pas posséder les pouvoir du logia à ce moment là
C'est même certain puisque Luffy apprend que Ace est un utilisateur de FDD à Alabasta me semble-t-il. | |
| | | Zaraki_No_Kenpachi Lieutenant
Nombre de messages : 1866
Age : 33 Localisation : Soul Society Date d'inscription : 06/10/2008
| Sujet: Re: One Piece 583 Lun 3 Mai 2010 - 21:21 | |
| Chapitre dispo en FR => http://www.op-fr.com/index2.php Comme dit plus haut chapitre bien sympathique. J'espère quand même que les Fb ne vont pas trop durer, hâte de retourner a la trame principale. | |
| | | Antarka Lieutenant
Nombre de messages : 1770
Age : 38 Date d'inscription : 19/05/2006
| Sujet: Re: One Piece 583 Lun 3 Mai 2010 - 21:26 | |
| Je pense qu'on aura encore 3-4 chapitres de Flash back... je les voit bien aussi long que cux de Robin perso.
Chapitre distrayant. Il était évident qu'on allait pas rester avec la même qualité que les 10 derniers chapitres, il faut bien que la pression retombe ^^
J'ai trouvé ça plaisant à lire perso, et puis ces flash back sont sans doute la dernière fois ou on verra Ace aussi présent... | |
| | | pikamox Mouchard
Nombre de messages : 114
Date d'inscription : 28/03/2008
| Sujet: Re: One Piece 583 Lun 3 Mai 2010 - 21:32 | |
| Mouais chapitre sympa, sans plus. C'est cool quand même de retrouver un Luffy aussi insouciant aprés ce long arc à le voir tout le temps sérieux. Par contre, qu'est ce que Ace pouvait être un sale môme! | |
| | | Lusama Lieutenant
Nombre de messages : 1914
Age : 31 Date d'inscription : 31/05/2009
| Sujet: Re: One Piece 583 Lun 3 Mai 2010 - 21:33 | |
| Je pense aussi que les flashbacks risquent de s'étaler. Lorsque Ace était mourant dans les bras de Luffy, il lui a dit un truc concernant Sabo comme quoi s'il avait continué à vivre c'était parce que son frère était toujours là. Sabo risque de mourir dans les prochains chapitres (ou il va lui arriver quelque chose), donc rien d'étonnant à ce qu'ils puissent d'étendre, d'autant plus que la relation fraternelle Ace/Luffy ne s'est pas construite du jour au lendemain. :) | |
| | | Rompich Mouchard
Nombre de messages : 119
Age : 36 Localisation : Dans son lit Date d'inscription : 24/01/2009
| Sujet: Re: One Piece 583 Lun 3 Mai 2010 - 21:52 | |
| Dans un premier temps , un peu ennuyé qu'on laisse de côté l'histoire actuelle pour retourner dans le passé , on en a tellement eu plein les yeux depuis quelques mois que c'est dur de faire redescendre le jus . Pour autant je comprends le choix scénaristique , comme dit plus haut , c'est certainement les dernières fois qu'on voit Ace comme perso central, et je sens que l'émotion va encore être présente dans les semaines à venir . Comme lusama , il me semble quasi évident que Sabo va mourir , il porte pas mal de l'attirail de Ace ( chapeau lunette tout ça ) et jouera certainement le rôle de catalyseur pour Ace et Luffy dans leur fraternisation. En tout cas c'est véritablement très intéressant de découvrir l'univers qui a forgé en partie la personnalité des deux frérots . On aura certainement droit à d'autres révélations . Je pense que cette partie marquera la rupture dans la personnalité de Luffy , plus de détermination , une vraie maturation . Pourquoi qu'un seul chapitre par semaine ????? | |
| | | SoGeKinG76 Mouchard
Nombre de messages : 31
Date d'inscription : 30/03/2010
| Sujet: Re: One Piece 583 Lun 3 Mai 2010 - 22:27 | |
| j'ai trouvé ce chapitre tres symphatique on vois que luffy veux vraiment se faire accepter par ace a mon comme il a etter dit plus haut sabo voulant aider ace a sauvé luffy va mourir et on va voir de kwa ettai deja capable luffy et ace quand il ettai gosse et de voir les vrai capacité de ace sans FDD mais je suis presé de voir la suite vivement jeudi pour le prochain scan bin si il en a 1 bien sure xD | |
| | | redge Capitaine
Nombre de messages : 2855
Age : 35 Localisation : Paris,France Date d'inscription : 20/07/2007
| Sujet: Re: One Piece 583 Lun 3 Mai 2010 - 23:00 | |
| chapitre très sympathique, ont retrouve l'humour de one piece et l'ambiance sympathique du manga. C'est clair que sa pouvait pas être aussi intense que la guerre de marineford mais c'est tout se qu'il y a de plus logique dans le déroulement de l'histoire.
En tout cas j'imaginais absolument pas Dadan comme sa comprends mieux pourquoi luffy et ace sont devenu des pirates aussi reconnu avec une mère pareil. Se serais d'ailleurs stylé qu'après se flashback luffy se mette a utiliser les ''trucs'' qu'il a appris avec Dadan parce que c'est vrai que comme dit souvent il se comporte plus comme un révolutionnaire que comme un pirate, mais bon la prochaine étape c'est le nouveau monde le saint graal des pirates.
En tout cas sa faisait un bail que j'avais pas autant rie et autant kiffé l'ambiance très enivrante de one piece et sa fait plaisir.
Bah oui la guerre c'était ultra impressionnant mais cétait carrément pas le même style.
J'aime bien l'attitude déterminé de luffy je trouve sa encore plus impressionnant que quand il est ''adulte'', car un enfant qui en accepte autant dans la tête pour se faire un pote c'est vraiment la classe. Comme dit précédemment je pense aussi que sabo va mourir dans des circonstances tragiques.... | |
| | | kurokami 5ème officier
Nombre de messages : 683
Age : 31 Localisation : in univer's way Date d'inscription : 03/01/2010
| Sujet: Re: One Piece 583 Lun 3 Mai 2010 - 23:06 | |
| Le hapitre, je l'ai trouvé bien marrant, très interessant, hate de voir comment ils deviendront frères... | |
| | | Kasa Mouchard
Nombre de messages : 81
Age : 33 Date d'inscription : 10/03/2010
| Sujet: Re: One Piece 583 Mar 4 Mai 2010 - 0:08 | |
| J'ai adoré ! Oda a le chic de passer d'un thème à l'autre en préservant l'enthousiasme de ses lecteurs et ca... c'est bien ! Il pourrait même nous faire un arc entier sur leur enfance, ca ne me déplairait même pas.
On voit des nouvelles têtes, notamment Dadan et son caractère apparement "bien trempé" (qui m'a beaucoup fait rire) avec aussi des nouveaux méchants ! houu!
Et maintenant je comprend mieux d'où luffy tire sa superbe imitation de sanji ! | |
| | | Metatron Lieutenant
Nombre de messages : 1522
Age : 38 Localisation : Mugenjo Date d'inscription : 21/01/2008
| Sujet: Re: One Piece 583 Mar 4 Mai 2010 - 7:46 | |
| Oui, ben moi un arc entier de flashback non merci. Quelques uns pas de problemes, c'est pas mal fait de nous montrer la naissance de la relation fraternelle entre Luffy et Ace apres la mort de ce dernier, par contre nous faire six mois la dessus ça peu vite devenir gonflant. Je ne ressens pas le choc de sa mort en tant que lecteur de la meme façon que la mort d'un Jiraya dans Naruto. Tout simplement parce que je trouve que sa mort est vraiment eclipsé par celle de Barbe Blanche, plus belle et plus importante pour l'histoire (certe pas pour le heros) et puis,il y a tellement de choses enormes qui se passent dans le monde à l'heure actuelle (Quid des autres mugiwara ? Moria est il toujours vivant ? Ascension de Barbe Noire, le chaos apres la mort de Barbe Blache, rapport dans la marine entre Sakazuki et Garp...etc) que nous mettre des dizaines de chapitres la dessus serait un peu abusé. Je me demande si apres ce flashback nous n'allons pas directement passer a "quelques mois plus apres la bataille de Marineford", voir un an... En gros un flashback qui sert de transition pour la fameuse ellipse. Un peu comme dans Naruto avec le Kakashi Gaiden... Sinon Dadan meme si elle est une vraie brigante me semble vouloir se donner une image plus dur qu'elle ne l'est en realité. Genre impressioner Luffy, lui faire peur, mais s'inquieter quand meme de son sort et de celui de Ace. Aurons nous sa reaction à la mort de son "fils adoptif" ?
Edit: ou alors un arc de vrais flashbacks sur le passé des gros genre Roger, Dragon, Kuma, Mihawk, Doflamingo ...Etc. Cela pourrait etre une bonne façon de nous presenter des perso que nous verrons dans plusieurs années (un Yonkou par exemple). | |
| | | redge Capitaine
Nombre de messages : 2855
Age : 35 Localisation : Paris,France Date d'inscription : 20/07/2007
| Sujet: Re: One Piece 583 Mar 4 Mai 2010 - 9:07 | |
| Personnellement je considère la mort de Ace comme bien au dessus des autres en terme, d'émotion parce que c'est tout simplement celle qui a été le moins prévisible, c'est bien simple a ma connaissance, absolument PERSONNE, ne l'avait vu venir alors que la mort d'un ''ancien'' dans un manga, est toujours hautement annoncé, je la met au niveau de celle de nina dans ''fma'' tragique injuste et horrible, brefs une mort qui sort un peu des sentiers battu.
Sinon les plus long flashback durent environ un tome ( presque) sa dépend de l'appellation arc mais cela peuvent durée. Et ils sont mine de rien un pilier de l'histoire puisqu'il explique pas mal la personnalité et la résistance psychique de luffy oda ne peut donc absolument pas les expédiés comme sa.
Par contre j'aimerais pas du tout que Oda nous sortent des flashback sur les gros aucun intérêt, si il dévoilait tout maintenant sa serait un gâchis, et ont sait que dans one piece les exploits passé ont énormément d'importance puisqu'il construisent la réputation d'un personnage donc non merci, le seul intérêt qu'il y aurait serait de faire un recoupement comme dans le chapitre ou comme a ohara. Mais bon aucune chance que oda se livre a un exercice du style.
Mais bon dans la mesure ou l'ont connait rien (ou peu) du passée de luffy cela reste des vrais flasback^^. | |
| | | Metatron Lieutenant
Nombre de messages : 1522
Age : 38 Localisation : Mugenjo Date d'inscription : 21/01/2008
| Sujet: Re: One Piece 583 Mar 4 Mai 2010 - 9:32 | |
| Je ne vois pas en quoi cela nous gacherait quelque chose de nous montrer des flashbacks sur l'equipage de Roger par exemple ? Ou de nous montrer la rencontre entre Mihawk et Shanks...Etc. Cela ne coute pas plus cher, et cela enrichis grandement le background de perso majeurs. D'apres Barbe Blanche leurs affrontements font partis de la legende de Grand Line. Le but de ce flashback c'est de nous montrer le traumatisme que represente la mort de Ace pour Luffy. Mais dans l'absolu on savait tous que ces deux la s'aimaient. En rajouter des caisses cela peut meme gacher cette relation. Apres c'est que le 2eme (un et demi ) chapitre, pour le moment c'est sympa. Mais si cela dure un tome entier a savoir 10 chapitres, (plus de deux mois) on va vite s'ennuyer... Apres je suis d'accord personne n'a vu venir la mort de Ace, surtout apres sa liberation. Donc dans le coté "choc" oui cela depasse Barbe Blanche. Mais c'est la mort du vieux qui cloture l'arc, qui boulverse l'equilibre du monde. Oda nous presente Barbe Blanche comme un surhomme, avec une mort legendaire (rappel du One Piece, mort debout), alors que celle de Ace nous est presenté comme une victime de guerre (Oars jr. ou à la Kuriel s'il y est mort). Evidemment je schematise puisque Ace a une importance enorme pour Luffy et qu'il est le fils de Roger. Mais quand je vois les deux, pour moi ya pas photo. | |
| | | Raziel 5ème officier
Nombre de messages : 681
Age : 36 Date d'inscription : 20/12/2007
| Sujet: Re: One Piece 583 Mar 4 Mai 2010 - 9:34 | |
| Classique mais plaisant..
D'un coté, le flashback dont on pouvait en deviner les grandes lignes: Luffy et Ace trop forts pour être de simples gamins, Ace qui est renfermé et méchaaaant , Luffy qui est ouvert et geeenntil avec l'introduction d'un personnage secondaire et d'un groupe d'ennemis...Bon passé ça, on peut deviner que Ace va aller au secours de Luffy, que Sabo va mourir de la main des pirates ( ou par la faute de Ace ou de Luffy) et qu Ace et Luffy vont partager leur passion , bla bla bla...Bref tout ca c'est du déja vu, rien d'interessant sur le fond..
Sur la forme ca reste relativement agréable, les aventures de Luffy, le coté enfantin et débonnaire reste présent et ca contrebalance pas mal avec la guerre de Marineford assez lourde ( dans tous les sens du terme )
Chapitre moyen sauvé par l'humour et par le coté enfantin.. | |
| | | Antarka Lieutenant
Nombre de messages : 1770
Age : 38 Date d'inscription : 19/05/2006
| Sujet: Re: One Piece 583 Mar 4 Mai 2010 - 11:30 | |
| Une question qui me trotte en deux depuis le dernier chapitre, je comprend vraiment pas pourquoi Garp, s'il voulait qu'Ace et Luffy deviennent des marines de renoms, leur a placé un tuteur pareil (d'ailleurs on voit le résultat lol). | |
| | | pandaren49 Shinigami
Nombre de messages : 442
Age : 40 Date d'inscription : 02/07/2009
| Sujet: Re: One Piece 583 Mar 4 Mai 2010 - 11:55 | |
| Parceque c'est un endroit isolé avec des gens qui savent se taire. Ils savent qui est Ace mais sont assez "durs" pour pas en avoir peur.
En plus il semble les tenir pour des affaires passées, ce qui fait qu'il peut les utiliser.
Et au final pour Luffy c'est son second plan, il l'a laissé vivre normalement un long moment dans son village natal, mais il se rabat sur une éducation à la dure pour le "discipliner".
Sinon chapitre sympathique, Luffy est toujours Luffy et on voit qu'Ace ne s'est pas ouvert à lui comme ça au premier regard. C'est crédible et intéressant. | |
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