Kaien-sama 5ème officier
Nombre de messages : 681
Date d'inscription : 01/08/2011
| Sujet: One Piece 864 : The Vinsmoke family Slaughter Plot Mar 2 Mai 2017 - 16:42 | |
| Chapitre's out : http://readms.net/r/one_piece/864/4224/1
Je vous laisse commenter, perso je suis gavé :p
... mais content que le chapitre sorte dès le mardi !!! | |
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JohnBarry Capitaine
Nombre de messages : 3127
Age : 39 Localisation : location in progress... Date d'inscription : 21/04/2009
| Sujet: Re: One Piece 864 : The Vinsmoke family Slaughter Plot Mar 2 Mai 2017 - 19:05 | |
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Stark10 5ème officier
Nombre de messages : 576
Age : 32 Localisation : Mort ou pas? Date d'inscription : 27/08/2009
| Sujet: Re: One Piece 864 : The Vinsmoke family Slaughter Plot Mar 2 Mai 2017 - 20:17 | |
| Encore un mauvais chapitre. Oda enchaîne en ce moment. BM est une ignoble farce. J'espère un sursaut de la part de Oda mais je n'y crois plis | |
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Ichi-007 Lieutenant
Nombre de messages : 1781
Age : 42 Localisation : Tousand Sunny Date d'inscription : 24/02/2009
| Sujet: Re: One Piece 864 : The Vinsmoke family Slaughter Plot Mer 3 Mai 2017 - 10:24 | |
| Chapitre qui place encore une fois BM dans une mauvaise posture , mais j'ai toujours confiance en Oda , et les deux indices les montre , 1 BM est sur le point de perd conscience ou plutot d'exploser de rage vu qu'il a dépassé les 3 seconds que capone disait puisque c'est la première fois qu'elle subi 3 coups (son gâteau détruit , Luffy détruit encore le plan contre les germa, et la photo de caramel cassé ) . 2 la réaction de Katakuri dit que c'est la première fois l'on vu à visage pale et ordonne Capone de Tué Luffy sur le champs , car je crois que l'idée de montre encore une fois la photo cassé va engendrer un Big Bang de Mama , je dirais plutôt une transformation complète , et je crois que c'est la meilleur solution pour redonner à BM le Yonkou sa vrai valeur de terreur .
Enfin j’espère . | |
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Youye Mouchard
Nombre de messages : 114
Localisation : sur ma chaise Date d'inscription : 11/04/2009
| Sujet: Re: One Piece 864 : The Vinsmoke family Slaughter Plot Dim 7 Mai 2017 - 13:25 | |
| - Ichi-007 a écrit:
- la photo cassé va engendrer un Big Bang de Mama , je dirais plutôt une transformation complète , et je crois que c'est la meilleur solution pour redonner à BM le Yonkou sa vrai valeur de terreur .
Enfin j’espère . Je suis d'accord là-dessus, tout comme Crackle je vois bien Big Mum avoir une autre apparence (la 1ère un peu grossière bien connue de tous qu'elle aurait créée via son fruit du démon) avec laquelle elle serait bien bad-ass et ira ensuite coller une branlée à tout le monde autour d'elle, histoire de montrer qui est la patronne. Les mugis vont finir par s'échapper avec (ou non) les Vinsmokes et Pudding, avec la crainte de la véritable puissance d'un Yonkou dans les esprits. | |
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Kaien-sama 5ème officier
Nombre de messages : 681
Date d'inscription : 01/08/2011
| Sujet: Re: One Piece 864 : The Vinsmoke family Slaughter Plot Mar 9 Mai 2017 - 15:20 | |
| Dans ce cas-là, il me faudra quelque chose d'aussi impressionnant que l'utilisation du fruit de BB sur Marineford | |
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Ichi-007 Lieutenant
Nombre de messages : 1781
Age : 42 Localisation : Tousand Sunny Date d'inscription : 24/02/2009
| Sujet: Re: One Piece 864 : The Vinsmoke family Slaughter Plot Mer 10 Mai 2017 - 16:20 | |
| a propos de la déception qui règne de la façon que Oda a présenté Big Mom chose qu'est universel ces jours-ci , j'ai lu un poste d'un gars qu'a bien expliquer la raison pour la quelle Oda a présenté cet arc , mais c'est en Anglais un petit effort n'est pas méchant, le voilà : - Spoiler:
ol imo Big Mom is pretty much going down in this arc, her getting a flashback now proves even more that she's going down in this arc. The side that says Big Mom isn't going down are using this Elbaf flashback as an excuse to say she's not going down. These are the same people that said Big Mom will get her flashback in Elbaf yet were actually getting it in this arc, so what is there left for Big Mom in Elbaf then? Just to randomly appear and then get defeated that's not how I see Oda doing it, also if Big Mom wanted to attack Elbaf she would have done it a long time ago. So she's going to attack Elbaf the minute Luffy arrives their lol sure, so yeah Big Mom getting a flashback is basically a point for us Big Mom going down side. They don't know shit haha. They don't know that Oda simply is setting the SH to have Elbaf as their allies. So, Luffy actually taking down Big mom whom the giants actually hate, along with how many Giant ally Luffy made throughout all of his journey, it will be of big help when they reach Elbaf. I mean, my god, everything hints she is going down this arc, but it's just the whole power scaling shit that Oda never cared about in the beginning is blinding all of these fans and are making them be in denial haha.
I can write you fucking so many reasons for her fall: 1- If she didn't fall, she might attack the Baratie in revenge.
2- If she didn't fall, she might attack Fishman island in revenge (yes I know the whole Fishman island prediction being destroyed, but again it is destroyed by fucking Luffy not Big Mom, and imo it's a void century thing where Luffy wants to destroy that island and bring the fishman into the surface and its a sign to erase the bad history on fishman island.
3- We have Big News Morgan. The guy is going panel after panel saying "Big NEWS" and jerking off to these news and wants to spread that news to the world haha. Do you guys fucking expect that Morgan will be allowed by Big Mom to spread those news if she didn't fall? No fucking way she will allow him to do so. Because that will stain her name as a Yonko and will make people take her lightly and would ruin her reputation. And we know Morgan is gonna spread those BIG NEWS, Oda made him here for this reason, if news aren't gonna be spread, Oda would have made him another normal strong underworld lord character and that's it, and he wouldn't be someone who makes newspapaer
4- ALL OF BIG MOM CREW are revealed, and all of her commanders and all of their powers were revealed. Tell me again, why would you face a crew whom we know everything about, it's boring as fuck, if she wasn't going down this arc, then oda would have made Luffy just face crackers, somehow manages to get Sanji, escape by some plot and we still don't know many things baout Big Mom or the other commanders.
5- Big Mom is having her fucking Flashback, I mean for god's sake, Oda doesn't make us see the enemies flashback and know their whole story unless they are going down soon cause Oda is simply done with their character and he wants to move on with other characters as opponents. Again, if we face her later on, tell me one thing that will make Big Mom and her crew have a surprising thing that will make us hyped, NOTHING. Which means, we will have an arc against an enemy we saw everything from them, why would we even want to see an enemy we know what they will do, what their powers, what their backstory and every damn thing. It's gonna make sooo many fans get boring vibe from the arc. In other words, Oda revealed all the damn cards in this arc and in Big Mom crew, what is left is them getting defeated, so he won't fucking delay it to have an extra arc against an enemy we are not interested in them anymore cause they don't have a single mystery around them anymore.
6- Vinsmoke getting back their raid suits only means that they are not just gonna go and simply escape. Having their raid suits back only means that Vinsmoke will get their fights, getting their fights mean other people will get their proper fights, all people getting their proper fight only means Big Mom will go down, cause Luffy will not go down and die and One Piece ends here haha.
7- The reverie will be after this arc, and Oda said in an interview that the main two topic of that reverie will be Luffy and Dragon. I doubt that Luffy will be so much big of a topic because he took down Doflamingo only, but rather the news of Big Mom going down which was spread by Morgan will make a huge impact on that reverie along with the fact that Luffy did help some kingdoms like Alabasta, Drum island, Fishman island, Dressrosa, and even kingdoms like Kano country which Don Chinjao and Sai are from and other countries and kingdoms who got peace because war stopped after the downfall of many villains Luffy to down, Doffy is the most recent one.
8- Big Mom arc is structured differently than Kaido. We are taking Big mom forces down one by one, bit by bit before the last battle against her last forces and herself. Right now, they have the best chance to take her down, and avoid facing all of her forces waaaay later down. She already knocked out most of her forces, Urouge beat a sweet commander for them, Luffy already beat a sweet commander a day before getting his health back. Everyone in SH is in full health for that end of arc battle. While kaido's arc will be a full scale war actually. It will not be like this one, Kaido is even gonna get his hands on jack again, they will pull him out of the sea, and we will have our full crew, with all the alllies we made without Oda using plots and other shit to reduce Kaido's forces, the battle will start with both having full forces butting heads, that's why it's gonna be a full scale war. so, don't bring the excuse that we need all of those allies for Kaido while we don't have all of these for Big mom, different arc, different structure and different plots and different way to defeat them.
9- People saying Luffy cannot have single chance against Big Mom, while they expect him to beat the strongest character in the damn universe right after that? lmao. So, people think Luffy cannot hurt her this arc, then the next arc we have Luffy defeating Kaido (even if it's with help) the fact that people think that Luffy cannot hurt her, and think that he will finish off Kaido next arc is fucking funny. Things go gradual with difficulty. and with that Oda will not by some miracle make Luffy from one arc being unable to do anything against Big Mom, to being able to finish off Kaido. So, oda will have to demonstrate Luffy this arc, so that when he faces Kaido and win, people don't say it's fucking bullshit.
10- It is for Wano's arc sake that Big Mom falls. Big Mom will fall mainly because she really underestimated the SHs. If she didn't the arc would have gone way more bad. And that is exatcly what kaido needs to hear. Kaido when he showed up, he was saying "oh, I know them well, they think they are hot shit cause they took down a shichibukai or two" I mean I know it sounds badass, but that again means he is underestimating them since Luffy specially is the one to do all that shit and not the other worst generation lmao. So, hearing one of the Yonko did fall, that will make him more serious, which means Wano arc will be taken way more seriously in that war, which means it will be a bloodbath war arc, and that's how you make a war that exceeds Marineford arc in hype as Oda promised for many future wars.
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owe Humain
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Age : 40 Date d'inscription : 15/11/2007
| Sujet: Re: One Piece 864 : The Vinsmoke family Slaughter Plot Mer 10 Mai 2017 - 18:39 | |
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